Camping Pad FAQ
What is your Return Policy?
All pads returned within 21 days of purchase in 'like new' condition qualify for a money back guarantee.
How do I clean my pad?
Pads must be cleaned regularly in warm water and hung dry. For particularly dirty pads mix 2 cups of warm water with 1 tablespoon of baking soda and wipe down with washcloth. Rinse well. Do not use any detergents, even natural detergents. Do not put in washing machine. Close valve before washing. Pads that are not washed well will not qualify under our warranty policy.
Why body mapping?
Body mapping allows Klymit to make the lightest and most compact pads also the most comfortable, as they are designed around the human anatomy.
Why are there cut outs?
The cut outs are called loft pockets. They increase warmth while decreasing weight. They also allow for a breathable pad on a hot summer night.
What are loft pockets and how do they work?
Loft pockets are the cut out portions of Klymit camping pads. They allow you to capture the warmth of your sleeping bag underneath you for the first time. Rather than having a big, heavy, bulky camping pad for warmth, Klymit pads give you more warmth at a miniscule weight.
What is the R Value?
Klymit Inertia pads do not have an r value because they use the warmth from your sleeping bag. If you have a sleeping bag that is rated to 35 degrees, then you can use any of our Inertia camping pads at that temperature.
What if I get a puncture?
Klymit provides the best patch kit in the industry. It gives you several patches with the actual fabric of the pad. We also stand behind our products with a limited lifetime warranty.
Is there a warranty?
Klymit offers a limited lifetime warranty on all of their products.
Can you use it inside the bag?
Yes, many of our customers love this option because they stay perfectly oriented on the pad all night long.
Do you have to use it inside your bag?
No, many prefer it underneath.
How many breaths to inflate?
It takes 1 to 3 breaths for the X lite 3/4 and X Frame full size pad, and 5 to 6 for the XL oversize pad.
Do I have to use the Dry Air Pump?
No, most users prefer the pad softer than fully mouth inflated.
What is included with the camping pad?
A stuff sack, patch kit, and bulb pump are included.
What is the Dry Air Pump for?
The dry air pump is for those who prefer a firmer sleeping surface. You can pressurize the pads to your comfort preference.
Kinetic Vest FAQ
What is your Return Policy?
All vests returned within 21 days of purchase in 'like new' condition qualify for a money back guarantee.
How do I clean my Vest?
Vests must be cleaned regularly in warm water and hung dry. For particularly dirty pads mix 2 cups of warm water with 1 tablespoon of baking soda and wipe down with washcloth. Rinse well. Do not use any detergents, even natural detergents. Do not put in washing machine. Cover the valve before washing. Vests that are not washed well will not qualify under our warranty policy.
How do you deflate the vest? How do you decrease your insulation?
There is a releas valve on the valve in the left pocket.. Just push to let some Argon or air out.
How do you inflate the vest? How do you increase your insulation?
Insert a Klymitizer™ with a KwikShot™ Kanister into the inflation portal in the left pocket.
How long will one fill last if you don’t deflate the vest with the Kontrol Dial?
Up to 3+ months under normal use. Less if used as a seat or pillow because of pressure relief valve.
How many fills per canister?
Small KwikShots: 2-5 depending on size of vest.
BigShot Tank: 100 – 150 depending on size of vest.
Dry Air Pump: Unlimited
How long will 3 KwikShot canisters last?
Most people will go through 3 small KwikShots a year. It depends on how often you inflate /deflate etc.
How do you dispose of canisters?
KwikShots are made out of 100% recyclable steel, please deposit in recycle bin.
BigShots are refillable and can be sent back to Klymit for refills.
What if you overinflate?
You can’t; there is a built in pressure relief valve on the dial.
What if you pop the vest or get a puncture?
We have never had a vest puncture as they are made out of durable nylon fabrics and they are primarily worn as a mid-layer with a shell over the top. On the off chance you get a puncture we supply 2 patch kits with each vest.
How do you fix the vest?
An adhesive temporary patch (supplied with vest). If you are unable to get a permanent patch yourself call Klymit for instructions or send in for a free repair.
How does it keep you warm when wet?
Our insulation does not lose its loft when wet. Once your body warms the moisture under the vest the NobleTek™ insulation keeps you and the water next to your skin warmer than the outside water.
Is it waterproof?
Is it breathable?
The vest is made with a 5,000mm waterproof/breathable monolithic, hydrophilic membrane that traps large inert argon molecules inside the chambers and allows for small water vapor molecules to migrate across the membrane surface towards the outside of the vest due to the hyperbaric pressure inside for the positive heat pressure created by the body. The shape of the vest also promotes wicking moisture away through the ventilated chamber ridges.
Are the vests buoyant?
Yes, the vest is buoyant, but it is NOT Coast Guard approved as a PFD. You should still wear an approved PFD for buoyancy when necessary. Still, it is perfect for cold water sports.
Does Argon have a scent?
No, Argon is completely odorless, colorless, tasteless as it is inert.
Is Argon safe?
Yes, it is non-toxic, non-flammable and inert. It is obtained from the atmosphere and is 1% of the air you are breathing now. Argon is also used in fire extinguishers in server rooms where water would damage electronics.
Is Argon safe for the environment?
Yes, in fact it is the most eco-friendly insulation in the world as it is extracted from the air we breathe and released back in to it. You will never see our insulation in a land fill, and the canisters are 100% recyclable.
Is it affected by altitude?
Yes, it expands and becomes even more thermally efficient the higher you go, perfect for parasailing, paragliding, or any other sport where you go up. There is a pressure relief built into the Kontrol Dial on the chest to prevent over-inflation so you don’t burst the chambers.
Are your vests wind resistant?
Yes, the loft of our gas chambers is immune to collapse and thus stay warm and comfy in any wind.
Is it safe to fly/ or travel with the canisters?
Yes, you can fly with 4 canisters per vest in either checked or carryon luggage but we strongly suggest checking your vest with canisters to avoid any confusion or delays with any uninformed TSA reps at the airport. A TSA brochure is included with the vest.
How durable are the vests?
So durable we have yet to be returned a ripped or popped vest. It tends to be worn as a mid-layer and doesn’t tend to be exposed to the rough treatment a shell might receive.
It is incredibly thermally efficient due to its molecular make up. It keeps the warm in and cold out. There is about a 1 to 3 ratio, 1mm of Argon has the same thermal conductivity of 3mm of fiber/air insulation.
Do the shells have argon in them?
No, our kinetic shells and base-layers are un-insulated. They are designed to work as a system with the vest. The vest is a mid-layer providing all the warmth you could desire as validated by all external 3rd parties that compare it to the warmth of a 900-fill Down jacket. Only our Ulaar jacket has NobleTek™ insulation incorporated into the torso.
Technical Questions and Answers
What is the R or Clo Value of the Kinetic Vests?
Laboratory tests show that the Clo value over 3. With that said there are characteristics of the vest that have made technical reviewers rate it as warmer than 900 fill down which would correlate to a Clo value over 4. One of these characteristics that is experienced in the field but may not be recognized as easily in the lab includes:
- Fit of Vest – in application a user can make it snug against the body thus limiting convection between the body and the vest when at rest or in motion. This is a big source of heat transfer.
- Dry gas chambers are not susceptible to moisture or humid air
- Virtually zero convective heat lost due to a closed cell system rather than open fibers.
Doesn’t convection greatly reduce the insulative power of the Argon?
Convection does play a role but it is less important in monatomic (i.e. noble) gases than it is in diatomic gases (i.e. nitrogen) or other molecules (i.e. air) due to their smaller moments of inertia (i.e. measure of a substance’s resistance to rotational change). This is explained more below.
Convection can be minimized by optimizing the size of the bladder which is a function of the width, height, and depth, and the shape. That is what we have done.
What effect does Radiation have on the thermal properties of your kinetic vests?
There are 4 forms of heat loss:
- Conduction: From solid body to solid body
- Convection: Involves liquid/gas
- Evaporative: Liquid evaporating off of a surface
- Radiation: Caused by electromagnetic waves. Low emissivity, or the relative power of a substance’s surface to emit heat by radiation, is wanted. The more reflective a material is the lower the emissivity.
Argon does not emit radiation in the IR range at ordinary temperatures so IR transmisivity is very low.
The emissivity of surfaces between two layers (i.e., on either side of the air gap between the clothing layers) is varied from 0.1 (aluminized space blanket material) to 0.95 (garbage bag, nylon, most other fabrics). The low infrared emissivity "space blanket" coating reduces heat loss by less than 10%. This is worth doing if there is no weight penalty, but for the most part, the space blanket with the aluminized layer pointing inward is not significantly warmer than a nylon surface. Protection from the wind, and having an extra layer with stagnant air inside are much more important than the emissivity. (http://windowoutdoors.com/WindowOutdoors/Staying%20Warm%20-%20Interesting%20Observations%20on%20Heat%20Loss.htm)
What are the properties of Argon that makes it insulate so well?
Thermal conductivity (k from which we can get clo and R) is a function of viscosity and density but most importantly it is a function of atom size and heat capacity which is a function of the characteristics of monatomic gases such as degrees of freedom that allow translational energy.
- Governing Equation: Q = k/L A (Tb-To)
- Q = k/L Nu A (Tb-To)…. k/L Nu = Keff
Argon is denser and its molecules are larger than air.
Argon has a low thermal conductivity due to low heat capacity (thermal mass or thermal capacitance). This is the capacity of a substance or a body to store heat and is due to:
- Orientation and the molecular bonds of the atoms
- Heat transfer can be greatly attributed to translational energy. Consider a box full of rubber balls and how easily they get excited to begin moving and transferring energy (i.e. heat). Due to monatomic gases relatively tiny moments of inertia about all three axes, extremely high temperatures would be required for the rotational degrees of freedom to become active so that these degrees of freedom can be thought of as nonexistent in monatomic gases.
- In molecules (like air), however, rotational modes may become active due to higher moments of inertia about certain axes. Further internal vibrational degrees of freedom also may become active; molecules are complex objects their population of atoms that can move about within the molecule in different ways. Thus convection is less of a factor with monatomic gases like Argon as they are with molecules like Air.